Monday, December 29, 2014

Foolish Arguments

“I’m into Jesus; I’m just not into church.”

That’s what the guy told me as he proudly boasted, "I worship God all day long, every day; I am constantly praising God and talking to Jesus. I don't have to go to church to worship God.” This kind of mindless drivel is akin to another hackneyed phrase, "I don't have to go to church to be a Christian."

I don’t generally go out looking for a doctrinal fight on purpose and it has been a long time since I engaged in an intellectual debate with an unarmed man BUT I just couldn’t help myself on this one. I jumped headlong into it.

The actual content of the ensuing debate is irrelevant here except to make a general observation. His entire attitude and his arguments clearly demonstrated a rejection of the absolute, sovereign authority of the Word of God.

When I answered one of his objections with scripture, his response was, “I disagree.”

So I reminded him that my arguments were not my own inventions, my ideas, or my opinions but they were, in fact, scriptural and that his disagreement was not with me but with God.

Then he employed the classic, inane, non-argument. He said, “SHOW ME IN THE BIBLE WHERE IT SAYS I HAVE TO…………..” (You can fill in the blank on this one; it doesn’t really matter what you put there. I have noticed that whenever a person has a problem with the authority of God is his life, he often deflects to this kind of stupid demand.

Needless to say, I lost the debate. Not because my arguments lacked substance, principle, or Truth. I lost because, in his final effort to outdo me, he stripped me of nearly 70% of my ammunition in one statement. He said, “and don’t give me any of that Old Testament stuff either; we are in New Testament times.”

That’s when I knew it was over. Without God’s Word, any supporting arguments we may have on any subject are only reduced to our own opinions. And that is where he wanted me-on an equal playing field in the emotional arena of subjectivity and personal preferences.

“O.K!” I conceded and I turned to walk away. And that really made him mad.

I learned a long time ago, the futility of trying to argue against stupid or emotional beliefs. In another post on this site, (“Don't Confuse Me With The Facts, I've Already Made Up My Mind”) the evidence is clearly presented that, introducing facts into a debate makes very little difference; people will believe what they want to believe regardless of evidence or truth.

“Do not answer a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him.” Proverbs 26:4


Ron Livesay said...

When someone says they know what the Bible says, but they disagree, they are on dangerous ground. I know of a church where the head deacon demanded the pastor not again mention election, predestination, God's choice, Calvinism, or any other such term. The pastor took him to Ephesians 1 and read a few verses. The deacon's response was, "I know what it says, but we don't believe that here." What more could the pastor say?

By the way - Show me in the Bible where it says I have to go to church... oh, wait... I guess it does.

Daisy said...

Amen and amen! I've grown up in a denomination that basically embraces the idea of personal interpretation. So you will often hear, "I disagree with that verse," or "I'm not convicted by that." Well, okie dokie then. What exact part of the Bible did you say again that you took literally and saw an inerrant cause I'm confused?